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Uncle Pete

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« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2025, 13:07 »
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@Uncle Pete

a difficult matter!

If you can't use the name of anything,how does anyone find this content?

it's different to write "in the style of Miyazaki" or "Australian style landscape" as you already know.

but if you can't write tomato because it's not a real tomato,how do you find the AI ​​tomato?   :D

and the same is also applicable to a name of a city or a country.

why set these limits?

if anyone wants to create a London with 2 Big Ben and insert the name "London", "Big Ben" and "Westminster" in the keywords,what's bad?

it doesn't matter at all because all the content is labeled as AI,so whoever buys it knows that it is AI content.

man has always been looking for new lands to explore,new borders to overcome,new discoveries,see what's on Mars and create gluten-free biscuits!

text to image AIs are simply the answer to a need that is innate in human beings,the need for something different,new.

I didn't mean tomato or cheeseburger and I never suggested that. You know that!

But putting Sydney Harbor on an AI image, is irresponsible. Putting Pope Francis on an image is misleading. We can't put down "in the style or" some specific artists name, and shouldn't. because the infringes on the artists known fame and styles. There are rights to personal likeness, which AI or not, are infringing.

No all AI images are not marked as AI, and you know that too.

Sure thing, make all the fake AI images anyone wants and of things and objects, scenes, mountains, woods, sliced tomatoes, any of that. But specific geographic places and names of a city, or a name of a real person, shouldn't be allowed. Then the fakery is spread, and who's to say that every AI image is also labeled as AI, once someone licenses it and uses it on their website. We can't even get proper credits for our work.

What next, fake news and fake editorial images? I'm not against making AI images, I opposed to making AI images that are deception or fakes, being passed off as something real.



« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2025, 14:55 »
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of course,I said tomato because writing tomato or Roma or Italian stylemakes no difference to me.

this is all fine as long as everything is represented in a generic way,if instead someone want to represent a real event or real news in Rome that actually happened,the matter is different,this cannot be done.

if instead I want to create a Roman Forum with 2 Arches of Tito,it's simply a dystopian,fictional Rome,so I label the content as AI,and in fact I also declare that the persons and properties are fictitious,and I definitely add the word Rome in the description and keywords,because the content always represents Rome,even if it's a fictitious Rome.

there is a difference between a real person,or a real artist and the name of a city or a country.

I don't create city AI content simply because I think AI is better suited to other types of content,but doing so is not a violation of any rule.

yes,I too have noticed content that I think is AI and that actually are not labeled as AI,this is definitely something to avoid,and this is our responsibility first of all and then also Adobe's responsibility of course.

I am more than certain that anyone who demonstrates repeat behavior in this sense will be permanently blocked by Adobe.

while if it happens once,due to distraction it can happen,it is blocked temporarily.

Given the amount of content added weekly,it's easy for something to slip through a first check,but I'm more than certain that Adobe performs more checks periodically than just the first review.

then once the file is downloaded everything is in the hands of the customer.

if I go in a gun shop and buy a gun and then go down to the street and start shooting people,no one will ever blame the gun shop for that!

Anyone can get a driver's license,but if someone enjoys spending the day trying to run over as many pedestrians as possible,what should we do?Take away everyone's license?

I have to index the content correctly then if someone uses AI content irresponsibly it is certainly not my fault because I wrote Roma.



Uncle Pete

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« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2025, 14:53 »
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of course,I said tomato because writing tomato or Roma or Italian stylemakes no difference to me.

I have to index the content correctly then if someone uses AI content irresponsibly it is certainly not my fault because I wrote Roma.

I say Sydney and you bring up some obscure similar name that could cause a problem in two languages, when translated. Nice try. Can you do that for Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus, San Francisco, and 98% of the other city names, mountain names, people and fake AI images, that shouldn't use real names or real name places in their keywords and identification? Probably not.

I don't care if you make AI or not, that's your choice. I choose not to, and maybe if you did photos, you wouldn't shoot what I enjoy and upload. All OK with me.

I'm looking for a little integrity in what people upload, especially when it's a false representation, of a real place. Or a picture of someone, that's not that person. You can't make a fake AI sports car and say it's a picture of a Ferrari, and shouldn't because... It's Not What you claim it is. That's dishonest, just as labeling a Roma tomato as a watermelon, when it's not.

Yeah, it would be terrible if people got confused between a Roma and the city Roma and couldn't tell the difference in under 5 seconds. Yet you defend outright fraud in labeling a fake AI image as a real place?  ;D  :o

« Reply #104 on: January 18, 2025, 07:35 »
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of course,I said tomato because writing tomato or Roma or Italian stylemakes no difference to me.

I have to index the content correctly then if someone uses AI content irresponsibly it is certainly not my fault because I wrote Roma.

I say Sydney and you bring up some obscure similar name that could cause a problem in two languages, when translated. Nice try. Can you do that for Chicago, Cleveland, Columbus, San Francisco, and 98% of the other city names, mountain names, people and fake AI images, that shouldn't use real names or real name places in their keywords and identification? Probably not.

I don't care if you make AI or not, that's your choice. I choose not to, and maybe if you did photos, you wouldn't shoot what I enjoy and upload. All OK with me.

I'm looking for a little integrity in what people upload, especially when it's a false representation, of a real place. Or a picture of someone, that's not that person. You can't make a fake AI sports car and say it's a picture of a Ferrari, and shouldn't because... It's Not What you claim it is. That's dishonest, just as labeling a Roma tomato as a watermelon, when it's not.

Yeah, it would be terrible if people got confused between a Roma and the city Roma and couldn't tell the difference in under 5 seconds. Yet you defend outright fraud in labeling a fake AI image as a real place?  ;D  :o

I understand your concerns, and I partially share them,but i also know it's gone.

we now live in a dystopian world,because the innate need in human beings for something different,new,unreal world.

just look at tv shows,movies,among the most succesful there are several dystopian ones,which I also really appreciate.

AI text to image or video,are the perfect example of the need for something different,new,unreal.

I understand that you don't care in the slightest whether someone uses AI or not,you simply chose not to use them,and continue to do what you like best and do best,and in my opinion this is very nice of you because you value freedom.

but at the same time you try to cling to reality,real cities,real names,it is wrong for you to use the name of a real city and should not be used in the description or keywords.

I,however,think that there is a fundamental difference between using the name of a real person or the name of a city,location,country.

I use the keywords that are allowed,label the content as AI and simply do my job.

I don't defend fraud in labeling a fake image as real,in fact I label all my AI content as AI,but I still have to use the word "Rome" if I create a fictional Rome,how else should I define it?just city?  :D

I am simply aware that I now live in a dystopian world,and I try to adapt to survival in this world,if I create a fake Roma,I have to put the word Roma,otherwise my content won't be found,and this doesn't change the fact that other dystopian Romes are found,so what changes?

I understand your concerns and partly share,but I don't think that all this can be stopped,the human need to distort reality,which in this historical moment is very strong.




« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2025, 07:42 »
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Yeah, it would be terrible if people got confused between a Roma and the city Roma and couldn't tell the difference in under 5 seconds. Yet you defend outright fraud in labeling a fake AI image as a real place?  ;D  :o

There was a blog post a while ago from an academic or similar looking for Roman statues or ancient Roman artefacts.  He was complaining that well over half the first page of search results were clearly unflagged and mislabelled AI.  3 arm statues, nothing genuine.  All "in the style of" which from an accuracy point of view just wasted his time.

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #106 on: January 19, 2025, 11:45 »
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https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html



Your Generative AI content prompts, titles or keywords:

    May not contain names of artists, real known people, fictional characters, or reference to creative works that are still in copyright. Please see HERE for additional information.

    May not contain names of people.

    May not imply the content is a depiction of an actual newsworthy event.

    May not contain names of government agencies.

    May not contain references to third party intellectual property.

If a contributor violates this policy, we will review and take appropriate action, which may include removing the content or terminating the contributor's account.

2. Label content as Generative AI prior to submission.

    Click the "Created using generative AI tools" [1] checkbox in the Adobe Stock contributor portal before submitting content created with generative AI software.
    Click the "People and Property are fictional" box [2] if your image or video features a fake person or fake property.


Here is the HERE:  https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/updated-artist-name-guidelines.html

    May not include or reference fictional characters

    Creative work names such as a movie, franchise, comic, art, design, or architecture

    May not include or reference other creative work, such as ...in the style of..., ...inspired by..., ...influenced by..., ...in the tradition of..., or ....drawing on...


Not just me, it's in the Adobe Guidelines.

If someone wants to upload a fake cityscape, they could use, fictional Metropolitan Italian city , or fictional Australian port city with a harbor.  ;D Buyers can find things, without using a proper name of a real place, for a fake and inaccurate image.

« Reply #107 on: January 20, 2025, 06:21 »
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in fact,the point of discussion is the name of a city or country,We don't think the same way about this.

using the name of a real city or country is allowed.

the name of a city is not the name of a copyrighted architecture,the name of a city or a country are not protected,they do not have copyright,and can therefore be used freely,even in AI-generated content.

if instead it is architecture protected by copyright,clearly the name cannot be used.


« Last Edit: January 20, 2025, 06:40 by Injustice for all »

« Reply #108 on: January 20, 2025, 10:09 »
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Yes, well done Adobe!!!  keep it going  :)
Sure that AI sheeps are alrerady crying  ;D ;D ;D

Next step:
- One section with real photography of real world, taken by photographers, excluding any AI images.
- Another section with AI generation engine directly used by customers, prompting themself what they want, maybe wih voice recognition (100% royalties for Adobe).

GOOD EXCITING NEWS!!!
Well Done Adobe.


 

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