Author Topic: Dead, dead, dead (Read 22096 times)

Dodie · « **on:** August 14, 2018, 02:22 »

Not a single sale in 5 days. I have the same images I had at the time when FT outsold SS but more in numbers.

They are very picky with approval, two images from the same session, like the same food in totally different setup is rejected for "similar image already submitted".

I really don't understand why did AS buy FT just to destroy it.

Anyone else having this bad experience or is it just me?

Video-StockOrg · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2018, 02:56 »

Extremely bad month on our side too... one pic and one video clip sold in 14 days. Is Adobe stock dead?

Steveball · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2018, 03:47 »

One of the better months so far for me on AS, it's SS that has tanked like never before. Worst month in 8 years, will be a miracle if I make payout.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2018, 03:47 »

BME for me. I can only assume they've tweaked the search engine, so some people are benefitting from the change and some are missing out. Swings and roundabouts... I'm sure they'll tweak it again before long!

Pauws99 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2018, 03:51 »

I'm finding sales more inconsistent than they used to be but they seem to even up in the end...too much tweaking of the search engine maybe?

Dodie · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2018, 03:57 »

It could be search tweaking but it is not my first bad month lately, so it is not summer vacations the reason either.

I have no world wide sale at all, just US and there are too many of these small $0.26 sale, big sales are very rare compared to the past.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2018, 06:41 »

Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 03:57

It could be search tweaking but it is not my first bad month lately, so it is not summer vacations the reason either.

I have no world wide sale at all, just US and there are too many of these small $0.26 sale, big sales are very rare compared to the past.

If you don't sell like before and your weekly rank is stable, then FT is "dead, dead, dead", indeed.
If don't sell like before and your weekly rank has dropped, then you are "dead, dead, dead", unfortunately.
So, which one is it?

Fyi, my rank has improved significantly the last couple of weeks (within the 3 digits domain)

obj owl · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2018, 07:16 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on August 14, 2018, 06:41

Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 03:57
It could be search tweaking but it is not my first bad month lately, so it is not summer vacations the reason either.

I have no world wide sale at all, just US and there are too many of these small $0.26 sale, big sales are very rare compared to the past.

If you don't sell like before and your weekly rank is stable, then FT is "dead, dead, dead", indeed.
If don't sell like before and your weekly rank has dropped, then you are "dead, dead, dead", unfortunately.
So, which one is it?

Fyi, my rank has improved significantly the last couple of weeks (within the 3 digits domain)

If your rank has improved significantly and your sales have dropped then FT is "dead, dead, dead", indeed.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2018, 07:54 »

Obvioulsy I know where this rank is that you speak of, as I've been on Fotolia/Adobe Stock for a few years and I know everything... obviously. But say I was trying to explain to a friend where one would find this rank, that I know all about... what do you think would be the best way to explain it to them?

DavidK · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2018, 08:02 »

A friend of mine once told me that the best way to explain it to another was to tell them to log in to their Fotolia front page, click the "my account" button in the top right hand corner, and then scroll down to the bottom where it displays your colour ranking, weekly position and overall position.

Hope this helps your buddy!

Zero Talent · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2018, 08:05 »

Quote from: obj owl on August 14, 2018, 07:16

Quote from: Zero Talent on August 14, 2018, 06:41
Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 03:57
It could be search tweaking but it is not my first bad month lately, so it is not summer vacations the reason either.

I have no world wide sale at all, just US and there are too many of these small $0.26 sale, big sales are very rare compared to the past.

If you don't sell like before and your weekly rank is stable, then FT is "dead, dead, dead", indeed.
If don't sell like before and your weekly rank has dropped, then you are "dead, dead, dead", unfortunately.
So, which one is it?

Fyi, my rank has improved significantly the last couple of weeks (within the 3 digits domain)

If your rank has improved significantly and your sales have dropped then FT is "dead, dead, dead", indeed.

Correct.

Fyi, my sales and my rank are both significantly better for the past two weeks.

Dodie · « **Reply #11 on:** August 14, 2018, 08:46 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on August 14, 2018, 06:41

Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 03:57
It could be search tweaking but it is not my first bad month lately, so it is not summer vacations the reason either.

I have no world wide sale at all, just US and there are too many of these small $0.26 sale, big sales are very rare compared to the past.

If you don't sell like before and your weekly rank is stable, then FT is "dead, dead, dead", indeed.
If don't sell like before and your weekly rank has dropped, then you are "dead, dead, dead", unfortunately.
So, which one is it?

Fyi, my rank has improved significantly the last couple of weeks (within the 3 digits domain)

It must be this one, if by "your weekly rank has dropped" you mean the number is bigger.

Thank you all for the explains, I know this is the logical method to see how thing are hanging, unfortunately, I haven't checked my overall rank after I started falling in earnings, a long time. However it is not much lower than ~5-6 month ago (4 digit). My weekly instead is double of my overall, does that tell something?

I don't know about that color ranking, is it the color of the badge in front of the rank number?

This morning my weekly sales were 6, I got 2 sales today and lost two, so weekly sales are still 6. Before this I had 5 days without a sale.
I will get more sales when my weekly goes under 6 again, this is how much I deserve, apparently.
Worst of all agencies, almost.

nobody · « **Reply #12 on:** August 14, 2018, 08:56 »

Remember a good portion of Europe takes the entire month of August off thus killing our sales...

Dodie · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2018, 09:02 »

Quote from: nobody on August 14, 2018, 08:56

Remember a good portion of Europe takes the entire month of August off thus killing our sales...

I don't quite understand, what do you mean?
I have no EU sale lately, though my stuff is more EU specific.

nobody · « **Reply #14 on:** August 14, 2018, 09:24 »

Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 09:02

Quote from: nobody on August 14, 2018, 08:56
Remember a good portion of Europe takes the entire month of August off thus killing our sales...

I don't quite understand, what do you mean?
I have no EU sale lately, though my stuff is more EU specific.

FYI

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2017/08/25/why-europeans-slack-off-in-august

Dodie · « **Reply #15 on:** August 14, 2018, 09:53 »

Quote from: nobody on August 14, 2018, 09:24

Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 09:02
Quote from: nobody on August 14, 2018, 08:56
Remember a good portion of Europe takes the entire month of August off thus killing our sales...

I don't quite understand, what do you mean?
I have no EU sale lately, though my stuff is more EU specific.

FYI

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2017/08/25/why-europeans-slack-off-in-august

Well, newspapers have to write something. Not only Europeans go to vacation in August or in summer month.
Students, children are in summer break, it's understandable families make their vacation before school starts.
That you can't find an ice cream in August can be happening in a small village with one ice cream vendor.

Strangely, in the past summer months were my best earners, not this August though.

nobody · « **Reply #16 on:** August 14, 2018, 10:39 »

Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 09:53

Quote from: nobody on August 14, 2018, 09:24
Quote from: Dodie on August 14, 2018, 09:02
Quote from: nobody on August 14, 2018, 08:56
Remember a good portion of Europe takes the entire month of August off thus killing our sales...

I don't quite understand, what do you mean?
I have no EU sale lately, though my stuff is more EU specific.

FYI

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2017/08/25/why-europeans-slack-off-in-august

Strangely, in the past summer months were my best earners, not this August though.

It seems that 'Strange' has become the norm is this business

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #17 on:** August 14, 2018, 11:25 »

Quote from: DavidK on August 14, 2018, 08:02

A friend of mine once told me that the best way to explain it to another was to tell them to log in to their Fotolia front page, click the "my account" button in the top right hand corner, and then scroll down to the bottom where it displays your colour ranking, weekly position and overall position.

Hope this helps your buddy!

A wonderful description of how to find it... I couldn't have explained it better myself! I have passed on the details, thanks!

Minsc · « **Reply #18 on:** August 14, 2018, 22:26 »

AS/FT is the one of the best agencies out there. Comparatively, it's easier to make money on FT than any other agency. If you can't make it here, you won't make it anywhere.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2018, 23:09 »

That's not been my experience. I only make about 3% of my monthly stock earnings from FT/AS.

Minsc · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2018, 23:25 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on August 14, 2018, 23:09

That's not been my experience. I only make about 3% of my monthly stock earnings from FT/AS.

Videos probably sells better in other agencies. For photos and vectors, FT/AS is the best from what I've experienced.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 15, 2018, 00:32 »

Quote from: Minsc on August 14, 2018, 23:25

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on August 14, 2018, 23:09
That's not been my experience. I only make about 3% of my monthly stock earnings from FT/AS.

Videos probably sells better in other agencies. For photos and vectors, FT/AS is the best from what I've experienced.

For most people I think SS still leads despite the gloom, capping, manipulation, near bankruptcy, incompetence and downright dastardliness.

derek · « **Reply #22 on:** August 15, 2018, 00:51 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 15, 2018, 00:32

Quote from: Minsc on August 14, 2018, 23:25
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on August 14, 2018, 23:09
That's not been my experience. I only make about 3% of my monthly stock earnings from FT/AS.

Videos probably sells better in other agencies. For photos and vectors, FT/AS is the best from what I've experienced.
For most people I think SS still leads despite the gloom, capping, manipulation, near bankruptcy, incompetence and downright dastardliness.

Odd but they seem to go hand in hand when its good theyre both good when bad both bad. Adobe really dont give a sheit about FT they treat it as a sort of hobby thing, they dont care about the algorithm or anything.

Adobe was going to make it so good asking people including myself questions about the market etc, etc before taking over and what happened? nothing! nothing at all!

Give me back the old FT anytime far, far better.

Minsc · « **Reply #23 on:** August 15, 2018, 02:00 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 15, 2018, 00:32

Quote from: Minsc on August 14, 2018, 23:25
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on August 14, 2018, 23:09
That's not been my experience. I only make about 3% of my monthly stock earnings from FT/AS.

Videos probably sells better in other agencies. For photos and vectors, FT/AS is the best from what I've experienced.
For most people I think SS still leads despite the gloom, capping, manipulation, near bankruptcy, incompetence and downright dastardliness.

There's definitely more potential on SS. My estimate is very rough, but I think SS gets at least 8-12x the total number of downloads across its entire portfolio compared to FT/AS on any given day. For bigger contributors, the ceiling is higher, but the competition is tougher. Older contributors also have an advantage over newer ones.

I think smaller and/or newer contributors can really make some noise on FT/AS. There's less competition and if you have the right type of portfolio, it can really thrive there.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2018, 02:08 »

Quote from: Minsc on August 15, 2018, 02:00

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 15, 2018, 00:32
Quote from: Minsc on August 14, 2018, 23:25
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on August 14, 2018, 23:09
That's not been my experience. I only make about 3% of my monthly stock earnings from FT/AS.

Videos probably sells better in other agencies. For photos and vectors, FT/AS is the best from what I've experienced.
For most people I think SS still leads despite the gloom, capping, manipulation, near bankruptcy, incompetence and downright dastardliness.

There's definitely more potential on SS. My estimate is very rough, but I think SS gets at least 8-12x the total number of downloads across its entire portfolio compared to FT/AS on any given day. For bigger contributors, the ceiling is higher, but the competition is tougher. Older contributors also have an advantage over newer ones.

I think smaller and/or newer contributors can really make some noise on FT/AS. There's less competition and if you have the right type of portfolio, it can really thrive there.

I also have/had a theory that Fotolia did better in the European market...not sure if thats so true anymore.

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Author Topic: Dead, dead, dead (Read 22096 times)

Dodie

Video-StockOrg

Steveball

SpaceStockFootage

Pauws99

Dodie

Zero Talent

obj owl

SpaceStockFootage

DavidK

Zero Talent

Dodie

nobody

Dodie

nobody

Dodie

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SpaceStockFootage

Minsc

SpaceStockFootage

Minsc

Pauws99

derek

Minsc

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