Author Topic: Royalty lower on extended license - anyone else seen that? (Read 4562 times)

Jo Ann Snover · « **on:** May 12, 2020, 10:16 »

I was happy to see an extended license in today's Adobe Stock sales, but puzzled that the royalty was only $21.12

I searched down the page to confirm my memory wasn't failing me - in March I had two extended licenses for $26.40. They haven't changed the prices shown, so either there's a discount program that used not to be there or our royalty percentage has changed.

Has anyone else seen a lower EL royalty from Adobe Stock recently?

Edited to add that I have a second extended license today (and that's in itself a surprise). That one is $26.40 as expected. I guess the good news is that prices/royalties haven't changed across the board. But someone was able to buy an EL for $64 instead of $79.99

dirkr · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2020, 16:32 »

I had one as well a few days ago, same commission (21,12).
On their website there is no explanation for that, royalties for ELs should always be 26,40 (see: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html)

Matt? could you comment?

res · « **Reply #2 on:** May 13, 2020, 01:05 »

A month ago I had an extended license sale for 23.76€. I even wrote to the Adobe support asking why I didn't get the normal 26.40€. The answer was that the commission is always 33% of what the customer paid. So I guess there must have been some kind of sales discount we don't know about.

Apart from that I get quite a few subscription sales with odd amounts recently. 2.97€ for example... which looks like a 10% discount on the usual 3.30 commission.

PinHead · « **Reply #3 on:** May 13, 2020, 01:46 »

Yesterday I had a sale of €26.40...

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #4 on:** May 13, 2020, 13:12 »

Quote from: res on May 13, 2020, 01:05

Apart from that I get quite a few subscription sales with odd amounts recently. 2.97€ for example... which looks like a 10% discount on the usual 3.30 commission.

$2.97 would be the royalty on a 40-pack of add on credits versus $3.30 is from the monthly 3-per-month subscription. Obviously, I don't know what your sales actually were, but I looked at the royalties on a number of the posted prices.

res · « **Reply #5 on:** May 13, 2020, 13:42 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 13, 2020, 13:12

$2.97 would be the royalty on a 40-pack of add on credits versus $3.30 is from the monthly 3-per-month subscription. Obviously, I don't know what your sales actually were, but I looked at the royalties on a number of the posted prices.

Thanks for the info! ...never heard of those add on credits.

ShadySue · « **Reply #6 on:** May 13, 2020, 14:15 »

Quote from: dirkr on May 12, 2020, 16:32

I had one as well a few days ago, same commission (21,12).
On their website there is no explanation for that, royalties for ELs should always be 26,40 (see: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/royalty-details.html)

Matt? could you comment?

I'm not Matt, but there are a lot of 20% off discount codes flying about (Google Adobestock discount), and $26.40 - 20% is exactly $21.12.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #7 on:** May 13, 2020, 15:09 »

Mat is looking into it. We'll know more once he posts.

On the subject of discount codes. I understand that once we moved to the percentage of actual sale model, contributors "shared" in any discount versus that just being a marketing expense borne by the agency, coming solely out of their share.

When the agency share is 67%, that should allow them to run promotions to drum up business. Exceptional discounts - i.e. limited time specials or new user deals - versus the volume/annual subscription discounts that are part of the published price lists should really be at the agency's expense as are the credit card fees, server bills, bandwidth charges or other costs of operating the business.

As an example, when Shutterstock did the deal with Facebook for small images for ads, contributors received a subscription royalty even though the buyer didn't pay for the image (it was "free" with the purchase of the ad).

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #9 on:** May 13, 2020, 21:24 »

Mat, thanks for looking into this.

I didn't realize that credits could be used for buying ELs - or that 8 credits was the price.

Every credit pack - from 5 at $49.95 to the two large ones (150 and 500 credits at $8 a credit) - would give a discount on the "list" price of $79.99 for an EL. I'm surprised more people don't use that purchase option. Perhaps the notion that you have to buy more credits than you need for one EL discourages buyers?

Extended licenses are nice to see