Author Topic: Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this days (Read 24421 times)

Souf10 · « **on:** October 06, 2021, 11:31 »

Hi
My Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this 2 weeks ..
just me ?

biibii · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2021, 12:09 »

normal

Camillo · « **Reply #2 on:** October 06, 2021, 13:10 »

Quote from: Souf10 on October 06, 2021, 11:31

Hi
My Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this 2 weeks ..
just me ?

Yeah man, I only sold one image in one month! This free convention seams to have backfired...

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #3 on:** October 06, 2021, 13:59 »

Quote from: Camillo on October 06, 2021, 13:10

Yeah man, I only sold one image in one month! This free convention seams to have backfired...

I'm no fan of the Free section (which started out at 70,000 a year ago and is now over 878,000), but I have not noticed it eating into my sales.

Not sure what type of media you license - mine is almost all photos - but that might make a difference. People from some countries have seen big drops after Adobe started handling "regions" differently and excluding large chunks of the collection - there's a thread about that here if you want to read the details).

Looking at my September 2021 compared to Sept 2020, Adobe stock sales were up 37%; even if you compare 2021 to 2019 (i.e. pre-pandemic), my sales were up 32%. My portfolio hasn't grown much (i.e. this isn't about a vast increase in size).

Long term, I think the free section is a very bad thing for contributors, especially of photos. Short term, I'm doing OK.

Dumc · « **Reply #4 on:** October 06, 2021, 14:11 »

September way my third best month this year, first 6 days of October so far comparable to first 6 days for September, I don't see any reduction in sales so far.

Astrantia · « **Reply #5 on:** October 06, 2021, 14:50 »

I haven´t sold a single pic for 8 days now.
That is very very unusual - I usually sell like 10 or 15 pics in 8 days....

MatHayward · « **Reply #6 on:** October 06, 2021, 15:46 »

While I'm not seeing anything of parcicular concern on my end, I am interested in learning more about your experience. Would those of you that are reporting a decline in sales be willing to share some additional information? Ideally, a link to your portfolio. If you prefer anonymity, that's OK too. I would like to know the following:

How many files are in your portfolio?
Primary asset type (photo, video, vector?
Date of your most recently (approved) submission?
Number of files you have uploaded in 2021 so far
Total number of downloads in September, 2020, compared with total number of downloads in September, 2021
Subject you specialize in? Food, Lifestyle, Landscapes, et?

Thanks in advance for the information!

-Mat Hayward

biibii · « **Reply #7 on:** October 06, 2021, 16:25 »

Very nice to re-check.

Quote from: MatHayward on October 06, 2021, 15:46

While I'm not seeing anything of parcicular concern on my end, I am interested in le
...

-Mat Hayward

gnirtS · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2021, 21:47 »

Fairly big crash and burn on AS for me here - earnings are down to about a 2 year low and its been sudden.

Thats with about 16k photos and 2k video. Thats with new content every 2 weeks or so on average (1500 or so new assets this year)

panicAttack · « **Reply #9 on:** October 07, 2021, 04:29 »

same here, but same on other agencies as well

I have about 9k images and 1k videos

Firn · « **Reply #10 on:** October 07, 2021, 04:34 »

Adobe is actually - FINALLY - doing well for me again.

Adobe sales have been on a decline or stagnating for me for months - in opposite to other agencies where sales rose the more images I added to my port. But starting maybe 3 weeks ago they finally got better again. But I must say that as Halloween season approches, my sales improve on all agencies as I have many photos suitable for Halloween in my ports, so maybe my Adobe sales are just part of that.

Bauman · « **Reply #11 on:** October 07, 2021, 06:21 »

For me too

I went from 400/500 $ month to 250/300 $ month (4.000 images) after the publication of the free collection that I didn't join.

There are very few extended license sales and the average per photo is too low ... (rpd from 1,17$ to 0,94$ - 2020 -> 2021).

Shutterstock sells for 10 cents ... but sells far more licenses over $ 50.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2021, 06:22 »

August was my BME in over two years of being on the platform. September was slower than average and October has started very slow.

panicAttack · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2021, 07:23 »

Quote from: Bauman on October 07, 2021, 06:21

For me too

I went from 400/500 $ month to 250/300 $ month (4.000 images) after the publication of the free collection that I didn't join.

There are very few extended license sales and the average per photo is too low ... (rpd from 1,17$ to 0,94$ - 2020 -> 2021).

Shutterstock sells for 10 cents ... but sells far more licenses over $ 50.

yes, also didn't join to free collection, I knew it will devastate regular sales.

I reply just because of your last part... I never get high custom licences at AS that I get on SS. 90-110+ USD, sometimes even more then 125USD for single image sale.

Got some extended licences on AS but far too few.

I think they should concentrate effort on providing individual custom licence deals with their buyers that are good both from buyers and contributors, because obviously there are buyers that don't care much about price if image is right.

Dumc · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2021, 08:44 »

Yeah, I miss those higher earning licenses on Adobe too. Apart from occasional EL's I only had two bigger sales in 7 years. One for 94€ and one for, I think it was 40 or 50€. The rest are less than 10€, and those are also rare.

UPLOAD-UPLOAD-UPLOAD · « **Reply #15 on:** October 07, 2021, 15:05 »

My Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this 2 weeks ..
just me ?
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Yeah man, I only sold one image in one month! This free convention seams to have backfired...
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My sales are also slow on Adobe, Shutterstock and Wirestock
It's probably a seasonal thing.

sara_t · « **Reply #16 on:** October 08, 2021, 10:55 »

Quote from: MatHayward on October 06, 2021, 15:46

While I'm not seeing anything of parcicular concern on my end, I am interested in learning more about your experience. Would those of you that are reporting a decline in sales be willing to share some additional information? Ideally, a link to your portfolio. If you prefer anonymity, that's OK too. I would like to know the following:

How many files are in your portfolio?
Primary asset type (photo, video, vector?
Date of your most recently (approved) submission?
Number of files you have uploaded in 2021 so far
Total number of downloads in September, 2020, compared with total number of downloads in September, 2021
Subject you specialize in? Food, Lifestyle, Landscapes, et?

Thanks in advance for the information!

-Mat Hayward

Well, year 2021 on AdobeStock is just...weird. I doubled my portfolio (which is mostly Aerials, Lifestyle and Food footage) and yet, my earnings has dropped significantly. Till now, I have earned half of what I've earned last year, with significantly smaller portfolio! (then: 800 videos, now: more than 1500).
And to avoid "maybe your portfolio is bad" I will just mention, that on SS with doubling my portfolio I've doubled my earnings already, and there are still 2 months, to make some money...

Hildegarde · « **Reply #17 on:** October 09, 2021, 22:58 »

yes, big slowdown for me. Sept- October is usually one of my best periods too so depressing. None of my best photos are in the free section but they are not selling on AS but are elsewhere. Overall I do think free section is hurting sales. AS used to be one of my best venues but since the free stuff is there, it is sliding to almost worst in terms of sales. Shocking. Big portfolio and upload continually.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #18 on:** October 09, 2021, 23:11 »

I'll offer an addendum to my earlier post - about the value of "custom" sales over time. Not all that surprisingly, the royalty amounts are dropping compared to 2020 and 2019 even though the volume of custom sales is rising.

It's not easy to look at details because Adobe Stock has very few stats tools for contributors, but I did a little checking on my royalties and saw that the double-digit custom sales have disappeared in 2021 (in 2019 I had a couple of $60+ royalties on custom sales) and the $9.x or $8.x custom royalties are largely a thing of the past too.

Custom sales volume was up about 60% in 2020 over 2019 and 50% in 2021 (so far) over all of 2020. However the royalties that were $4 and up in 2019, $2 and up in 2020, are $1.80 and below in 2021 (seeing lots more recently in the $1.5x range).

I realize that there's price pressure because of competition, various free collections (including Adobe's own), a weak economy because of the pandemic and a huge supply of content. But when you look at a bundle of 20 custom royalties in 2019 that netted me $95 and compare that with a 2020 bundle of 20 that netted me $36, it makes it really clear how much royalty erosion there has been in just a couple of years.

marthamarks · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2021, 00:32 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 09, 2021, 23:11

I'll offer an addendum to my earlier post - about the value of "custom" sales over time. Not all that surprisingly, the royalty amounts are dropping compared to 2020 and 2019 even though the volume of custom sales is rising.

It's not easy to look at details because Adobe Stock has very few stats tools for contributors, but I did a little checking on my royalties and saw that the double-digit custom sales have disappeared in 2021 (in 2019 I had a couple of $60+ royalties on custom sales) and the $9.x or $8.x custom royalties are largely a thing of the past too.

Custom sales volume was up about 60% in 2020 over 2019 and 50% in 2021 (so far) over all of 2020. However the royalties that were $4 and up in 2019, $2 and up in 2020, are $1.80 and below in 2021 (seeing lots more recently in the $1.5x range).

I realize that there's price pressure because of competition, various free collections (including Adobe's own), a weak economy because of the pandemic and a huge supply of content. But when you look at a bundle of 20 custom royalties in 2019 that netted me $95 and compare that with a 2020 bundle of 20 that netted me $36, it makes it really clear how much royalty erosion there has been in just a couple of years.

Excellent analysis as usual, Jo Ann. Thanks for taking the time to think it through and spell everything out so clearly.

With my custom sales on AS, I'm seeing the same things you describe. Still a high proportion of such sales compared to the basic subs, but they don't bring in what they did before.

This is no surprise, given everything you mention that's driving prices down. It's a reality we can't deny, and it's not only because AS has a big new free section. Lots of other factors are in play here now.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2021, 04:05 »

Interesting. For video, my custom sales are usually priced at less than the regular ones. Not always, but more often than not.

Lowls · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2021, 10:26 »

I was doing quite well. Better than expected given port size but in september it began slowing down. To a stop. I have a very small port but the payout's are better, when they come. But since during august I had sporadic sales. Last sale September 6th and again yesterday.

whosvegas · « **Reply #22 on:** November 15, 2021, 10:12 »

For weeks complete dead

Because i am busy with other things, i have uploaded little

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #23 on:** November 15, 2021, 11:07 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on October 09, 2021, 23:11

I'll offer an addendum to my earlier post - about the value of "custom" sales over time. Not all that surprisingly, the royalty amounts are dropping compared to 2020 and 2019 even though the volume of custom sales is rising.

It's not easy to look at details because Adobe Stock has very few stats tools for contributors, but I did a little checking on my royalties and saw that the double-digit custom sales have disappeared in 2021 (in 2019 I had a couple of $60+ royalties on custom sales) and the $9.x or $8.x custom royalties are largely a thing of the past too.

Custom sales volume was up about 60% in 2020 over 2019 and 50% in 2021 (so far) over all of 2020. However the royalties that were $4 and up in 2019, $2 and up in 2020, are $1.80 and below in 2021 (seeing lots more recently in the $1.5x range).

I realize that there's price pressure because of competition, various free collections (including Adobe's own), a weak economy because of the pandemic and a huge supply of content. But when you look at a bundle of 20 custom royalties in 2019 that netted me $95 and compare that with a 2020 bundle of 20 that netted me $36, it makes it really clear how much royalty erosion there has been in just a couple of years.

Yes, and we get paid a percentage of the sold price, not some made up magic number. Good point, they must be selling licenses for less. Not easy to look at stats is way understated.

I don't track volume, so I wouldn't see anything if it did happen.

Proof of nothing department, because we're all different, but for some others. One of my free images on Adobe, sold twice on another site, this month. Odd because it was one of those, "hasn't made a dollar in over two years" examples.

And for sales up or down, which for me has nothing to do with some irrelevant free images, Oct-Nov, I have the most sales since any time or year in the past on Adobe. The note is, they are mostly Holiday Images. I'm glad I took the time to add more of those over the last two years.

Dumc · « **Reply #24 on:** November 15, 2021, 11:39 »

First 15 days of this month by far the best this year. If it keeps up with this pace it might be best month.

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Author Topic: Adobe Stock Sales are so slow this days (Read 24421 times)

Souf10

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Astrantia

MatHayward

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gnirtS

panicAttack

Firn

Bauman

Pacesetter

panicAttack

Dumc

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Hildegarde

Jo Ann Snover

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Lowls

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