Author Topic: Adobe Stock Free Collection: Video Nominations (Read 42055 times)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 13, 2022, 02:28 »

As I already wrote, the price suits me, but the number of selected videos by Adobe categorically does not suit me. You won't earn much with that amount.

bestravelvideo · « **Reply #51 on:** October 13, 2022, 03:06 »

They have pre-selected 1 in 70 of my clips for evaluation. From these, a couple has already sold and at least one is a good earner in all agencies. The rest have to do with not widely offered content and at least one is unique. For me personally, $8 is a very bad deal that does not do any justice to the offered content. I guess each one has to decide based on his content and numbers. Noone is trying to influence others, we are all just sharing our different opinions.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #52 on:** October 13, 2022, 03:20 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 02:28

As I already wrote, the price suits me, but the number of selected videos by Adobe categorically does not suit me. You won't earn much with that amount.

The other consideration is, even if you nominate all your videos selected in this first-stage selection process, there's no guarantee (and I suggest it's very unlikely) all your selected videos will qualify for the free collection offer - except for the better, more saleable clips at just $8.00 each for the year. One video sale to a customer will often eclipse $8.00 and much more, and over the course of 12 months will invariably add up to much more than that.

thx9000 · « **Reply #53 on:** October 13, 2022, 03:41 »

Gotta love the contrast in this thread - one side is making a rational argument, weighing the pros and cons for a well thought out decision. The other side doesn't even care to read, keeps repeating the same over and over, throwing a tantrum like a 5 year old, then claims authority

. I hate the fact that I'm in the same business with the second type, it's the type that will proudly facilitate the agencies to make it worse for all of us. And there are so many like him...

Stockmaan · « **Reply #54 on:** October 13, 2022, 04:35 »

8$ is low for one year. But as a activ mostly video/animation contributor I will nominate some of my content. I also nominated my images and I can say that sales of images this year increased significantly compared to last year. I think this helps to expose portfolio.. I hope the same will happen with videos in the future. Good luck to everyone!

Diana Herrmann · « **Reply #55 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:25 »

Dear Diana,

Yesterday we sent you an email to opt-in nominated assets for the free video collection on the Contributor portal by October 27. Unfortunately, you received the email in error based on your previous eligibility to nominate vectors and illustrations.

We regret any inconvenience. Please disregard the previous email.

Regards,
The Adobe Stock Content team

stoker2014 · « **Reply #56 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:37 »

Quote from: Pacesetter on October 13, 2022, 03:20

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 02:28
As I already wrote, the price suits me, but the number of selected videos by Adobe categorically does not suit me. You won't earn much with that amount.

The other consideration is, even if you nominate all your videos selected in this first-stage selection process, there's no guarantee (and I suggest it's very unlikely) all your selected videos will qualify for the free collection offer - except for the better, more saleable clips at just $8.00 each for the year. One video sale to a customer will often eclipse $8.00 and much more, and over the course of 12 months will invariably add up to much more than that.

The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.
Also, as far as I understand, the video in the free collection is not removed from the sale. Well, Adobe basically chooses what has not been sold even once in the last 12 months.
A free collection is generally incomprehensible to anyone, I don’t think that all buyers will run there, many have bought and will continue to buy. I doubt that the video in the portfolio will even be marked somehow, like don't buy it, go and download it for free.

dirkr · « **Reply #57 on:** October 13, 2022, 08:51 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37

Also, as far as I understand, the video in the free collection is not removed from the sale. Well, Adobe basically chooses what has not been sold even once in the last 12 months.
A free collection is generally incomprehensible to anyone, I don’t think that all buyers will run there, many have bought and will continue to buy. I doubt that the video in the portfolio will even be marked somehow, like don't buy it, go and download it for free.

You're wrong.
At least that is how it works for photos: If a photo is in the free collection, any customer can download it for free (for the period of one year), and there is not even the option to pay for it.

Visualab · « **Reply #58 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:00 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 11, 2022, 15:14

Quote from: derby on October 11, 2022, 14:19
Only my thoughts: I'm not a "company", but I know that sometimes it's hard for a company to understand some little human reasoning :-)
I don’t understand at all how they choose videos from the author’s portfolio, on what basis. I don't care if my videos sold in the last 12 months or not, but they chose very few videos from me, they chose a monotonous video, 70% of the same story. I personally would like all my videos to be featured in the free collection if I get paid to do so. I don't care if it's $8 or more. Okay, they say they only take what hasn't sold in a year, great, let them take it. But they do not take, but choose very few videos.

Did you understand that footages chosen in the free collection won't sell anymore on adobe and probably way less on other sites too??

derby · « **Reply #59 on:** October 13, 2022, 09:22 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37

The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.

Unbelievable. Quite the same as selling clip in standard market. Great math.

Quote from: Visualab on October 13, 2022, 09:00

Did you understand that footages chosen in the free collection won't sell anymore on adobe and probably way less on other sites too??

No, he doesn't understand; at the third page of thread, because he doesn't want to waste time reading the first one.
He doesn't understand that proposal is to sell the clip to Adobe for one year

Visualab · « **Reply #60 on:** October 13, 2022, 11:46 »

Quote from: derby on October 13, 2022, 09:22

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37
The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.

Unbelievable. Quite the same as selling clip in standard market. Great math.

Quote from: Visualab on October 13, 2022, 09:00
Did you understand that footages chosen in the free collection won't sell anymore on adobe and probably way less on other sites too??

No, he doesn't understand; at the third page of thread, because he doesn't want to waste time reading the first one.
He doesn't understand that proposal is to sell the clip to Adobe for one year

or maybe he hasn't sold a single clip on adobe and this is the only way to make some profit...in this way it makes sense...

f8 · « **Reply #61 on:** October 13, 2022, 15:51 »

Coincidentally one of my "eligible assets" that has already sold twice on Adobe Stock just sold again for over $50. I should accept and nominate their offer of $8. It should be noted that this particular clip has also sold five times elsewhere. That $8 just keeps looking better and better. That $8 would essentially wipe out my income producing asset for the sole benefit of a corporation and it's marketing needs.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #62 on:** October 13, 2022, 17:23 »

Quote from: f8 on October 13, 2022, 15:51

Coincidentally one of my "eligible assets" that has already sold twice on Adobe Stock just sold again for over $50. I should accept and nominate their offer of $8. It should be noted that this particular clip has also sold five times elsewhere. That $8 just keeps looking better and better. That $8 would essentially wipe out my income producing asset for the sole benefit of a corporation and it's marketing needs.

This is not even the main issue.

Every free clip or image is an alternative to paid images or videos created by other contributors.
It's hard to compete with free. Even if other paid images/videos are better, many "buyers" will choose a free option.
It is short-sighted to selfishly look only at the immediate little gains obtained from allowing your free assets to be downloaded for free, without looking at the bigger losses from your other assets, when free competitive alternatives are offered by other users.

As a community, we shoot ourselves in the feet.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #63 on:** October 13, 2022, 18:49 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37

The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.

The math here is that this is an initiative by a publicly traded company which you can guarantee will have a set budget, which will result in a set number of selections for the free collection. If 100% of people nominate 100% of their eligible clips, then I'll put good money on Adobe not select all of those clips. Sure, if a total of only 1% of eligible clips are nominated then that changing to 2% will mean more clips in the free collection... but a change from 99% to 100% isn't going to increase anything. And while the more videos that are selected, the more money will be transferred to you, that's based on them all being selected which they probably won't be... nominating more doesn't automatically mean more money.

f8 · « **Reply #64 on:** October 13, 2022, 20:24 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on October 13, 2022, 17:23

Quote from: f8 on October 13, 2022, 15:51
Coincidentally one of my "eligible assets" that has already sold twice on Adobe Stock just sold again for over $50. I should accept and nominate their offer of $8. It should be noted that this particular clip has also sold five times elsewhere. That $8 just keeps looking better and better. That $8 would essentially wipe out my income producing asset for the sole benefit of a corporation and it's marketing needs.

This is not even the main issue.

Every free clip or image is an alternative to paid images or videos created by other contributors.
It's hard to compete with free. Even if other paid images/videos are better, many "buyers" will choose a free option.
It is short-sighted to selfishly look only at the immediate little gains obtained from allowing your free assets to be downloaded for free, without looking at the bigger losses from your other assets, when free competitive alternatives are offered by other users.

As a community, we shoot ourselves in the feet.

I totally agree this is not even the main issue. The main issue is much bigger than any one individual.

As a community we are not only shooting ourselves in our foot, we are shooting ourselves in the other foot as well.

I will never opt in to one of these offers. They do not benefit the community at all, they do however benefit a billion dollar corporation.

I have enough confidence in the quality of work I produce that I will NOT give it away. Just because it does not sell on Adobe does not mean it's not a best seller on another platform and vice versa.

Free is the kiss of death.

f8 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 13, 2022, 20:26 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 13, 2022, 18:49

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37
The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.

The math here is that this is an initiative by a publicly traded company which you can guarantee will have a set budget, which will result in a set number of selections for the free collection. If 100% of people nominate 100% of their eligible clips, then I'll put good money on Adobe not select all of those clips. Sure, if a total of only 1% of eligible clips are nominated then that changing to 2% will mean more clips in the free collection... but a change from 99% to 100% isn't going to increase anything. And while the more videos that are selected, the more money will be transferred to you, that's based on them all being selected which they probably won't be... nominating more doesn't automatically mean more money.

Adobe is selecting the content with their needs in mind and not the contributor's needs. Just sayin.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #66 on:** October 14, 2022, 02:33 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 13, 2022, 18:49

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37
The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.

The math here is that this is an initiative by a publicly traded company which you can guarantee will have a set budget, which will result in a set number of selections for the free collection. If 100% of people nominate 100% of their eligible clips, then I'll put good money on Adobe not select all of those clips. Sure, if a total of only 1% of eligible clips are nominated then that changing to 2% will mean more clips in the free collection... but a change from 99% to 100% isn't going to increase anything. And while the more videos that are selected, the more money will be transferred to you, that's based on them all being selected which they probably won't be... nominating more doesn't automatically mean more money.

I'll make it easy to understand. You have 20 videos nominated. I've had over 200 nominations. Let's see now who gets the most money from this.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #67 on:** October 14, 2022, 02:36 »

Here, some write about prices, that free undermines the market. Guys, there are already a lot of sites with cheap subscriptions, and it hasn't changed the market much yet. Not all buyers need it to be cheap or free, some need it to be expensive so that their project looks solid and expensive in the eyes of the customer. And these people will never buy anything for free.

Visualab · « **Reply #68 on:** October 14, 2022, 02:57 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 14, 2022, 02:36

Here, some write about prices, that free undermines the market. Guys, there are already a lot of sites with cheap subscriptions, and it hasn't changed the market much yet.

it hasn't change the market?? have you been doing stock since yesterday??what do you think all 2/3$ sales come from?

PinHead · « **Reply #69 on:** October 14, 2022, 02:58 »

For all the whiners on the forum, nominate what suits you and that's it, you have this opportunity. Jessus...

stoker2014 · « **Reply #70 on:** October 14, 2022, 03:52 »

Quote from: Visualab on October 14, 2022, 02:57

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 14, 2022, 02:36
Here, some write about prices, that free undermines the market. Guys, there are already a lot of sites with cheap subscriptions, and it hasn't changed the market much yet.

it hasn't change the market?? have you been doing stock since yesterday??what do you think all 2/3$ sales come from?

The financial crisis due to the coronavirus and the russian attack on Ukraine.

Visualab · « **Reply #71 on:** October 14, 2022, 04:42 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 14, 2022, 03:52

Quote from: Visualab on October 14, 2022, 02:57
Quote from: stoker2014 on October 14, 2022, 02:36
Here, some write about prices, that free undermines the market. Guys, there are already a lot of sites with cheap subscriptions, and it hasn't changed the market much yet.

it hasn't change the market?? have you been doing stock since yesterday??what do you think all 2/3$ sales come from?
The financial crisis due to the coronavirus and the russian attack on Ukraine.

no..2/3 $ sales come to compete with subscription model...actually coronavirus increased the need for stock because of procutions stopped working and the travel ban..

Zero Talent · « **Reply #72 on:** October 14, 2022, 04:46 »

Quote from: PinHead on October 14, 2022, 02:58

For all the whiners on the forum, nominate what suits you and that's it, you have this opportunity. Jessus...

Jessus... you missed the point.

Other people's nominations may impact your sales, if you create similar stuff, since it's hard for you to compete with free, even if your stuff is better.

And vice-versa.

Tragedy of the commons.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #73 on:** October 14, 2022, 05:11 »

Zero Talent, Adobe only nominates what hasn't sold in the last 12 months, i.e. slag.
I'm not talking about subscription stocks, which, following your logic, should have bankrupted Adobe a long time ago.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #74 on:** October 14, 2022, 05:37 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on October 14, 2022, 02:33

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 13, 2022, 18:49
Quote from: stoker2014 on October 13, 2022, 08:37
The math here is simple. The more videos that are initially nominated, the more videos will be included in the free collection and the more money will be transferred to you.

The math here is that this is an initiative by a publicly traded company which you can guarantee will have a set budget, which will result in a set number of selections for the free collection. If 100% of people nominate 100% of their eligible clips, then I'll put good money on Adobe not select all of those clips. Sure, if a total of only 1% of eligible clips are nominated then that changing to 2% will mean more clips in the free collection... but a change from 99% to 100% isn't going to increase anything. And while the more videos that are selected, the more money will be transferred to you, that's based on them all being selected which they probably won't be... nominating more doesn't automatically mean more money.
I'll make it easy to understand. You have 20 videos nominated. I've had over 200 nominations. Let's see now who gets the most money from this.

I have 32 eligible videos, I have zero videos nominated currently... I'm still deciding. I think you're missing the point... obviously you stand to make more money all things being equal. That could be because you just have more videos that have never sold, but it's purely a numbers game... you have a lot more videos than me so it stands to reason that you'd have more eligible files. My point is that you're highly unlikely to make $1600 unless they adjust the eligibility of files... i.e. not every video that is nominated is going to be selected.

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