I would like to have an answer to that question too.

Thanks in advance if anybody can provide it.

I use MPEG Streamclip 1.2 to cut videos or remove the sound and it works with 4k videos recorded with a Lumix LX100 camera

I have 1.2.1. I can cut the original photojpeg clips. Had problems with h.264. But strange thing is that I tried it again, and it actually worked, it was just painfully slow. Strange, few days ago when I tried to open a clip like that I just got all sorts of error messages..

Originally I was looking for a proper H.265 to ProRes converter. There a lot out there but most are substandard. I found something called iFFmpeg which is quite good. I see besides being a transcoder it does basic editing like trims and filter applications, rotations etc. It's not free but not expensive either. 18 euros I think

I find it a bit amusing that so many think it's completely natural to expect no less than $79-$199 for a few seconds of footage but don't want to spend even half that for software that takes years to develop. 

If you're interesting in doing video, do yourself a favor and get the real software right away.

For me, I have Final Cut Pro X. But since it does not output certain codecs, I can just use MPEG (or used to) for quick access. For me, it's not about cheap. It's about speed and flexibility.  So I now use Quicktime Player Pro (that I paid for) which works just fine to export to other formats. For me, clipping will be done in FCPX where I have better control, but you can do it in Quicktime as well (if your'a Mac user).

Anyhow, I agree that to do things right you should make a modest investment for the right tools. 

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on October 22, 2017, 10:52

I find it a bit amusing that so many think it's completely natural to expect no less than $79-$199 for a few seconds of footage but don't want to spend even half that for software that takes years to develop. 

If you're interesting in doing video, do yourself a favor and get the real software right away.

For me, I have Final Cut Pro X. But since it does not output certain codecs, I can just use MPEG (or used to) for quick access. For me, it's not about cheap. It's about speed and flexibility.  So I now use Quicktime Player Pro (that I paid for) which works just fine to export to other formats. For me, clipping will be done in FCPX where I have better control.  I could do it in Photoshop as well, but for whatever reason it outputs the same codec in nearly 3x the file size as FCPX.

Anyhow, I agree that to do things right you should make a modest investment for the right tools.

What do you need FCP X to output? ProRes, h264 and uncompressed should be enough, no?

I agree, in terms of speed, FCP X is unbeatable. It's quite soul killing to edit something in Premiere or After Effects and then compare it to FCP X. Exporting can be 10 times faster or more! Not to mention just working with multiple 4k clips in the timeline. Of course, you can't do everything you can do with AE or Premiere, but for simple edits it's extremely fast.

Ideally, a combination of FCP X, Premiere and After Effects is what I need (and work with today). It would be great to have it in the same program... If I ran Adobe I would purchase FCP X and implement the fundamental handling of clips into Premiere and AE.

Photoshop is a nightmare for video, but I suppose it can be used for extremely simple things. Auto align can be a great stabilizer for some things, working much better than the warp stabilizer. And for other things, not so good. It's a pain to work with image sequences in Photoshop layers though.

Quote from: Mantis on October 22, 2017, 11:16

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on October 22, 2017, 10:52

I find it a bit amusing that so many think it's completely natural to expect no less than $79-$199 for a few seconds of footage but don't want to spend even half that for software that takes years to develop. 

If you're interesting in doing video, do yourself a favor and get the real software right away.

For me, I have Final Cut Pro X. But since it does not output certain codecs, I can just use MPEG (or used to) for quick access. For me, it's not about cheap. It's about speed and flexibility.  So I now use Quicktime Player Pro (that I paid for) which works just fine to export to other formats. For me, clipping will be done in FCPX where I have better control, but you can do it in Quicktime as well (if your'a Mac user).

Anyhow, I agree that to do things right you should make a modest investment for the right tools.

Mantis, I am surprised you are using FCPX and are having trouble getting the codec you want especially for stock. What are you missing?

Photo JPEG was a codec I once needed.  Other than that, FCPX is my go-to.

Mantis, not my first choice in codecs but photo jpeg does seem to be there in FCP.

Is that in Compressor? I do not see it in my FCPX and on Apple's website they say that these are the supported export codecs.

My new GoPro Hero 6 outputs 4K - 60fps and 2.7K - 120fps clips in HEVC - H 265 only.  Final Cut Pro, DaVinci Resolve (free version), Quicktime and imovie all fail to open the files.  The internet says FCP will update eventually...

I downloaded a trial version of Brorsoft Video Converter.  It does convert to 422 which would be okay for short clips but the file sizes are too far too big to work with if you have an hour of footage to chop.  Anyone working in Final Cut Pro with GoPro Hero 6 in h265 yet?  If so please let me know the best conversion work flow. 

Update:  Updated my Mac system to High Sierra and updated imovie.  HEVC - H 265 will preview in Quick Time Player and Finder and import into imovie.. but will not export 4K.  Seems crazy that FCP is lagging behind. 

Quote from: trek on October 25, 2017, 07:05

My new GoPro Hero 6 outputs 4K - 60fps and 2.7K - 120fps clips in HEVC - H 265 only.  Final Cut Pro, DaVinci Resolve (free version), Quicktime and imovie all fail to open the files.  The internet says FCP will update eventually...

I downloaded a trial version of Brorsoft Video Converter.  It does convert to 422 which would be okay for short clips but the file sizes are too far too big to work with if you have an hour of footage to chop.  Anyone working in Final Cut Pro with GoPro Hero 6 in h265 yet?  If so please let me know the best conversion work flow. 

Update:  Updated my Mac system to High Sierra and updated imovie.  HEVC - H 265 will preview in Quick Time Player and Finder now and import into imovie.. but will not export 4K.  Seems crazy that FCP is lagging behind.

Best h.265 convertor is iFFmpeg. About 18 Euro but a decent program that allows a wide variety of transcoding settings.

Interesting, thanks for thhe tip. Will have a look.
H265 looks like a promising codecs, but not well supported yet