They are selling our products too cheap. 

They are selling our products too cheap.

In that case don't use them to sell your products and if you have a portfolio with them delete it.

They are selling our products too cheap.

Really?

Shutterstock :
   ID   Earnings    Downloads
   143379691   $0.38   1

Deposit:
FILE ID  FILE NAME DATE  SIZE METHOD EARNED BEFORE TAX TAX WITHHELD NET EARNED
28378823   blablabla.jpg   Dec.20, 2019   -   Subscription Plan   $0.38   $0 (0%)   $0.38

Quote from: helloitsme on December 29, 2019, 18:48

They are selling our products too cheap.

Really?

Shutterstock :
   ID   Earnings    Downloads
   143379691   $0.38   1

Deposit:
FILE ID  FILE NAME DATE  SIZE METHOD EARNED BEFORE TAX TAX WITHHELD NET EARNED
28378823   blablabla.jpg   Dec.20, 2019   -   Subscription Plan   $0.38   $0 (0%)   $0.38

The original topic was about prices, not royalties, but even if we compared royalties, I assume you realize the above isn't the whole story, and thus not a reasonable comparison.

I have never supplied DepositPhotos - not ethical in their approach when they first contacted me plus their history as a file sharing site - but if I look at December for SS, my return per download is 98.8 cents $1.01 (and I get 38 cents per sub same as everyone else in the top tier)

Anyone want to share DepositPhotos' RPD for December 2019 (on a decent number of sales)?

(edited after the December books closed at SS to show the final RPD for the month)

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on December 30, 2019, 13:23

Quote from: helloitsme on December 29, 2019, 18:48

They are selling our products too cheap.

Really?

Shutterstock :
   ID   Earnings    Downloads
   143379691   $0.38   1

Deposit:
FILE ID  FILE NAME DATE  SIZE METHOD EARNED BEFORE TAX TAX WITHHELD NET EARNED
28378823   blablabla.jpg   Dec.20, 2019   -   Subscription Plan   $0.38   $0 (0%)   $0.38

The original topic was about prices, not royalties, but even if we compared royalties, I assume you realize the above isn't the whole story, and thus not a reasonable comparison.

I have never supplied DepositPhotos - not ethical in their approach when they first contacted me plus their history as a file sharing site - but if I look at December for SS, my return per download is 98.8 cents (and I get 38 cents per sub same as everyone else in the top tier)

Anyone want to share DepositPhotos' RPD for December 2019 (on a decent number of sales)?

134 dl. 28 cents RPD

But DP do special deals from time to time which are MUCH cheaper. Which is why I buy from them when I need an image. And the photog earns something. OK, lots of the BEST images aren't on DP but if I had to pay SS rates, I would have to make do with all my own photos, and the photog would earn nothing.
If I was rich, or ran a big company where top quality really mattered, then yes, much of the best stuff is elsewhere and I would choose another site.
That's the reality of it.

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on December 30, 2019, 13:23

Quote from: helloitsme on December 29, 2019, 18:48

They are selling our products too cheap.

Really?

Shutterstock :
   ID   Earnings    Downloads
   143379691   $0.38   1

Deposit:
FILE ID  FILE NAME DATE  SIZE METHOD EARNED BEFORE TAX TAX WITHHELD NET EARNED
28378823   blablabla.jpg   Dec.20, 2019   -   Subscription Plan   $0.38   $0 (0%)   $0.38

The original topic was about prices, not royalties, but even if we compared royalties, I assume you realize the above isn't the whole story, and thus not a reasonable comparison.

I have never supplied DepositPhotos - not ethical in their approach when they first contacted me plus their history as a file sharing site - but if I look at December for SS, my return per download is 98.8 cents (and I get 38 cents per sub same as everyone else in the top tier)

Anyone want to share DepositPhotos' RPD for December 2019 (on a decent number of sales)?

its about 30c so less than 1/2 of shutterstock for me. These days only Bigstock is worse and RF123 very similar. Not that I have many sales.

RPD: DepositPhotos vs SS

Yearly average:
SS: 0.77cents/download
DP: 0.39cents/download

Port size (31 Dec):
SS: 10,135 images
DP: 6,381 images

Yes, their prices are about half what Shutterstock's price.  I deleted all my photos there.  I control my price.

DP in 2019:  758 sales,  0.37rpd   

Whether it's RPD, RPI or just revenue, DP is the worst of the platforms I upload to.

After careful consideration, I finally decided to stay for another reason: personal advertisement.

I have noticed, indeed, that several of the buyers I had on DP were major news website from Balkans. Therefore, I am punctually using this as some references to my clients outside of the microstock world. It's indeed slightly less glorious than Alamy thanks to whom I can add references like BBC, Wired or The Independent, but on the local market, it's actually something pretty marketable.

That being said, one day or another, I think this will have to stop.

"On Demand" photo prices are $49 for 5 photos at Shutterstock and $49 for 10 photos at Depositphotos.  It's 1/2.

High prices have brought shutterstock down. 

Quote from: helloitsme on December 30, 2019, 23:18

"On Demand" photo prices are $49 for 5 photos at Shutterstock and $49 for 10 photos at Depositphotos.  It's 1/2.

High prices have brought shutterstock down. 

It's easy to undercut on price, anyone can sell their work cheaply, this is not the way forward, a race to the bottom is of no value to contributors.

Quality as they say always sells and is the only way forward and part of this is to increase the commission to contributors as Adobe done.

Shutterstock should do the same, as overall this encourages contributors to produce better work.

Ten years from now, Getty which is a prime example of a price cutter is going to be struggling to have quality content.

Shutterstock's next move should be to increase their prices and the commission rate to contributors, the basic download commission should be around 45 cents.