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Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...
Don't be surprised if Nikon starts using Foveon sensors.Patrick H.
Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 03:56Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...You think? But Canon currently has no decent offering at around the $1100 mark.It's the Rebels around $800, then the 7D around $1700.Surely they need to introduce an upgrade to the dismal 50D?
Quote from: RaFaLe on July 21, 2010, 04:13Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 03:56Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...You think? But Canon currently has no decent offering at around the $1100 mark.It's the Rebels around $800, then the 7D around $1700.Surely they need to introduce an upgrade to the dismal 50D?I don't feel that... I had choice to buy 5DMkII or 550D and gone for 550D. Not so much difference for the price especially in video ;-)
Interesting... Video is darn close between all 3 models (5DM2, 7D and 550D). But there are differences. The 550D does not support all of the ISO modes that the 75/5D do and that has been a problem. Even with stills. The 5D outclasses both the 7D and 5D in stills in my opinion. Even though the mega-pixel size is smaller, that full size sensor makes a huge difference. And the number 1 reason to pick a 7D or 5D over the 550D is weather proofing. You cannot take the 550D out in the rain, heavy fog or even severely humid conditions.I love my 550D and I'd highly recommend it to anyone on a budget, but if I had the money I'd have gotten the 7D.
Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 04:23Quote from: RaFaLe on July 21, 2010, 04:13Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 03:56Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...You think? But Canon currently has no decent offering at around the $1100 mark.It's the Rebels around $800, then the 7D around $1700.Surely they need to introduce an upgrade to the dismal 50D?I don't feel that... I had choice to buy 5DMkII or 550D and gone for 550D. Not so much difference for the price especially in video ;-)Interesting... Video is darn close between all 3 models (5DM2, 7D and 550D). But there are differences. The 550D does not support all of the ISO modes that the 75/5D do and that has been a problem. Even with stills. The 5D outclasses both the 7D and 5D in stills in my opinion. Even though the mega-pixel size is smaller, that full size sensor makes a huge difference. And the number 1 reason to pick a 7D or 5D over the 550D is weather proofing. You cannot take the 550D out in the rain, heavy fog or even severely humid conditions.I love my 550D and I'd highly recommend it to anyone on a budget, but if I had the money I'd have gotten the 7D.
Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 04:23Quote from: RaFaLe on July 21, 2010, 04:13Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 03:56Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...You think? But Canon currently has no decent offering at around the $1100 mark.It's the Rebels around $800, then the 7D around $1700.Surely they need to introduce an upgrade to the dismal 50D?I don't feel that... I had choice to buy 5DMkII or 550D and gone for 550D. Not so much difference for the price especially in video ;-)LOL!!!
Quote from: Talanis on July 21, 2010, 14:35Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 04:23Quote from: RaFaLe on July 21, 2010, 04:13Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 03:56Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...You think? But Canon currently has no decent offering at around the $1100 mark.It's the Rebels around $800, then the 7D around $1700.Surely they need to introduce an upgrade to the dismal 50D?I don't feel that... I had choice to buy 5DMkII or 550D and gone for 550D. Not so much difference for the price especially in video ;-)LOL!!!What is funny here? I made my choice because I already have Nikon D3X - why would I throw my money away for something what can't ever match my prime camera body? I took that little light camera to have it for full HD video and I don't see why I should pay extra for 5DMkII which is heavier with that I needed to buy some extra lenses which are video oriented ;-)[added]: I am experimenting with sterography, 3D imaging and 3D video... I will buy one more 550D soon too ;-)One more notice: Canon lenses really sucks over Nikons! But, if you're lucky you can find some good pieces. For example old manual lenses with tag made in USSR will fit your canon with an cheap adapter and perform much better than expensive Canon branded.
I realize that you are baiting but couldn't resist a comment .... All this from someone who paid $8,000 for a $5,000 camera.
Quote from: WarrenPrice on July 23, 2010, 08:44I realize that you are baiting but couldn't resist a comment .... All this from someone who paid $8,000 for a $5,000 camera.^^ Excellent point, Warren From reading a few of his posts I get the feeling that everything Albert Martin knows about photography and stock could fit on the head of a pin, with plenty of room left over for several dancing angels
Quote from: Albert Martin on July 23, 2010, 05:24Quote from: Talanis on July 21, 2010, 14:35Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 04:23Quote from: RaFaLe on July 21, 2010, 04:13Quote from: Albert Martin on July 21, 2010, 03:56Nah... They rock enough with 5DMkII and 550D... They will not need any new model until Nikon catches up...You think? But Canon currently has no decent offering at around the $1100 mark.It's the Rebels around $800, then the 7D around $1700.Surely they need to introduce an upgrade to the dismal 50D?I don't feel that... I had choice to buy 5DMkII or 550D and gone for 550D. Not so much difference for the price especially in video ;-)LOL!!!What is funny here? I made my choice because I already have Nikon D3X - why would I throw my money away for something what can't ever match my prime camera body? I took that little light camera to have it for full HD video and I don't see why I should pay extra for 5DMkII which is heavier with that I needed to buy some extra lenses which are video oriented ;-)[added]: I am experimenting with sterography, 3D imaging and 3D video... I will buy one more 550D soon too ;-)One more notice: Canon lenses really sucks over Nikons! But, if you're lucky you can find some good pieces. For example old manual lenses with tag made in USSR will fit your canon with an cheap adapter and perform much better than expensive Canon branded.I realize that you are baiting but couldn't resist a comment .... All this from someone who paid $8,000 for a $5,000 camera.
BTW, too much sarcasm and egoistic behavior here... It sucks!
Did you have an opinion of the image quality and functionality of the 7D vs. the 5D?
Quote from: Albert Martin on July 23, 2010, 09:18BTW, too much sarcasm and egoistic behavior here... It sucks!Yes, you do present that type of attitude and it does suck...And no, you can't always compensate for the lack of using "NATIVE" ISOs with aperature, exposure or even filters. If you knew anything about Canon cameras, you'd know that. Using a native ISO gives you perfect exposure without having to mess with any other settings and is ideal. Yes, you can get close with other tricks, but still not perfect and "perfection" is something we should all aspire too.As I said in my previous post, I love my 550D. It is by far the best "video" camera I have owned to date (and since it does stills, I have significantly increased my still portfolio on microstock sites with images that sell better than the illustrations I did previously). But I have rented a 7D and borrowed a 5D for a few projects and using them side-by-side with the 550D they consistently recorded a better image. Although, the difference was marginal. Still, better is better and for the price difference I would totally expect it.For anyone on a tight budget, I would highly recommend the 550D/T2i. But if they can possibly afford a 7D, I would definitely go with that over the 550D for reasons stated previously. As soon as the summer slump is over and sales pick back up, I'm going to get a 7D and give my 550D to my daughter who has spent the summer letting me teach her photography and videography.
Quote from: lisafx on July 23, 2010, 11:20Did you have an opinion of the image quality and functionality of the 7D vs. the 5D? I didn't shoot very many stills with the 7D and 5D, but the image quality was pretty close. The 5D has less moire when shooting bricks, fences, etc.. because of the full size sensor. As for Video, they were nearly dead on identical in footage when using the same settings. In fact, I was able to use the exact same keying settings when keying footage between the two.A good friend of mine has a 7D as his backup and he personally prefers it for stills, although I didn't ask why... but I will ask him. But 90% of the stills he submits to SS, IS and FL are from his 7D.Also, I just got back from this morning's photo judging at our county fair (open division) and of the 8 images I submitted, four won ribbons and I got Best in Show for the Journalism category. All 8 were shot with my T2i. I got 3 first place and 1 second place ribbon. Plus $90 in prize money. And all four are eligible for entry into the state fair where the winner of each category is $1000. I decided to enter last minute and had all of my prints done at Walmart. For the state fair I'll re-print them at a better facility.
