Author Topic: Nikon Medium Format - MX (Read 8798 times)

leaf · « **on:** September 05, 2008, 12:23 »

Is there a lot of rumors going around these days or is it just me??

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...On speaking with Nikon [in country unnamed], this came to light with various questions - they already had development plans for a new Nikon digital rangefinder with approx 48mmx48mm size sensor inside it, tentatively called the “MX” format, the camera is not to dissimilar to the older film Mamiya 6 camera philosophy.

The new camera will be backward compatible with DX and FX lenses (via mount adaptor), therefore the lens factor (based on using a FX lens) will be worked out like this:...

[nikonwatch.com]

Pixart · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2008, 10:58 »

According to their BIG ad in Rangefinder, they will be releasing more details next month and having a big reveal at WPPI in February.

Other rumours suggest a leaked document lists "MX" on a list beside DX and FX (Nikon formats) with a row that might be pixel sizes... 6380x6380. A 40 mp camera!

lilcrazyfuzzy · « **Reply #2 on:** September 17, 2008, 14:07 »

That...will be too awesome not to have!

litifeta · « **Reply #3 on:** September 17, 2008, 18:06 »

how can a sensor that big be useful to their current lens range?

b79 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2008, 20:51 »

Quote from: litifeta on September 17, 2008, 18:06

how can a sensor that big be useful to their current lens range?

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/15/mx-lenses.aspx

Yuri_Arcurs · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2008, 14:04 »

Quote from: b79 on September 17, 2008, 20:51

Quote from: litifeta on September 17, 2008, 18:06
how can a sensor that big be useful to their current lens range?

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/15/mx-lenses.aspx

Ironically, the bigger then sensor, the less demand on lens quality. So by getting a bigger sensor, you get less fringing and lens problems in general. Hassy lenses seem so much better, but if you know the physics, it is very mush easier to make good lenses for big sensors, then making good lenses for small sensors (full-frame for example).

CofkoCof · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2008, 19:22 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on September 19, 2008, 14:04

Quote from: b79 on September 17, 2008, 20:51
Quote from: litifeta on September 17, 2008, 18:06
how can a sensor that big be useful to their current lens range?

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/15/mx-lenses.aspx

Ironically, the bigger then sensor, the less demand on lens quality. So by getting a bigger sensor, you get less fringing and lens problems in general. Hassy lenses seem so much better, but if you know the physics, it is very mush easier to make good lenses for big sensors, then making good lenses for small sensors (full-frame for example).

Hm, not sure thats quite right. Doesn't take mp into account. Check the current pics of 5D II (which is FF) and 24-105. Looks like lens is becoming the problem. I expect all the major players to start announcing better lenses soon.

epixx · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2008, 21:19 »

Quote from: CofkoCof on September 19, 2008, 19:22

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on September 19, 2008, 14:04
Quote from: b79 on September 17, 2008, 20:51
Quote from: litifeta on September 17, 2008, 18:06
how can a sensor that big be useful to their current lens range?

http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/15/mx-lenses.aspx

Ironically, the bigger then sensor, the less demand on lens quality. So by getting a bigger sensor, you get less fringing and lens problems in general. Hassy lenses seem so much better, but if you know the physics, it is very mush easier to make good lenses for big sensors, then making good lenses for small sensors (full-frame for example).

Hm, not sure thats quite right. Doesn't take mp into account. Check the current pics of 5D II (which is FF) and 24-105. Looks like lens is becoming the problem. I expect all the major players to start announcing better lenses soon.

That's because of the increased pixel density, not because of the sensor size. The whole point with a larger sensor is that you can achieve the same or higher amount of pixels with a lower pixel density, an advantage that transforms into less information density through the lens as well.

vonkara · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2008, 15:31 »

Here's some maybe fresh news...

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://zoom.comon.dk/index.php/news/show/id%3D803&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&sl=da&tl=en

Engentlig there are two things. Enten et MX-format som er storebroderen til FX-formatet. Either an MX format as the big brother to the FX format. Altså større end fullframe. So larger than full frame. Men der kan også være tale om en opgradering af D3 til D3x - med en sensor med 25 millioner pixels. But there may also be an upgrade of the D3 to D3x - with a sensor with 25 million pixels.

Uanset hvad, så er ventetiden slut onsdag 22. Either way, is the waiting end Wednesday 22 oktober. October. Da er Nikon nemlig klar til at løfte sløret for, hvilken model, der er tale om. Since the Nikon is ready to be unveiled by the model in question. Der er nemlig netop tikket en indbydelse til pressemøde ind af døren med følgende ordlyd: There is just tikket an invitation to the press in the door which reads as follows:

"Nikon lancerer nu et nyt produkt, som vil blive vist frem onsdag den 22. oktober i Steen Evalds fotostudie. Strategien om at gøre alle danskere – alle lige fra Coolpix-brugere til mode-fotografer – til bedre fotografer skinner også igennem med lanceringen af dette nye produkt. "Nikon now launching a new product, which will run until Wednesday 22 October in Steen Evald photo studio. The strategy of making all Danes - all from the Coolpix users to fashion photographers - to better photographers is also evident with the launch of this new product.

Verdensnyheden lanceres den 22. World news launched on 22 oktober i den kendte modefotograf Steen Evalds studie i København. October in the well-known fashion photographer Steen Evald studio in Copenhagen. Steen Evald er en af Danmarks bedste fotografer. Steen Evald is one of Denmark's best photographers. Han har taget billeder af alt fra Kongehuset til kendte danskere som Cecilie Frøkjær, Casper Christensen, Jarl Friis-Mikkelsen Morten Resen og mange andre. He has taken pictures of everything from King Hall to the famous Danes as Cecilie Frøkjær, Casper Christensen, Jarl Friis-Mikkelsen Morten resen and many others. Nikons produktspecialist Thomas Lorenzen vil introducere det nye produkt for udvalgte Nikon-partnere og pressen. Nikon product specialist Thomas Lorenzen will introduce the new product for selected Nikon partners and the press. "

Vi gætter på et helt nyt kamera med et antal megapixel på den anden side af 30.... We estimate a brand new camera with a number of megapixels on the other side of 30 ...

vonkara · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2008, 15:32 »

And more infos

Nikon Watch's source continues: The sensor will be similar in design to the D3 sensor and the camera itself will be able to use existing FX (full frame) lenses via an adapter. This will give a crop factor of 0.5x -- pop on a 50mm lens and it will act like a 25mm lens. It will also shoot rectangular pictures by cropping the image from the sensor, which means that you can choose either landscape or portrait orientation without actually moving the camera. Finally, the camera wil be cheap. Not D60 cheap, but a lot less than the current $40,000 offering from Hasselblad."

Even more good reason to stick with full-format lenses instead of DX lenses - at least you can use them if you inherit just enough to buy this body. I'm sure the MX lenses will be $3000+ each, and there won't be any 3rd party lenses for an entirely new mount - at least not for a bit. The square format is very VERY exciting, I love square compositions - and tons of room to crop to more standard formats.

I must say, though, that you will need to SERIOUSLY upgrade to a high-end PC or Mac with multiple processors and at least 8GB of RAM. And the hard drive space will be ridiculous, might as well invest in the hot-swappable hard drive bay with several 1TB drives. Oh, and a 30" or larger monitor to really see the details.

leaf · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2008, 15:45 »

wow.. exciting news. Can't wait til it comes out. .. not that I am a Nikon fan, but it might bring something fancy out from the Canon end

vonkara · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2008, 17:23 »

Only thing is it will cost a lot. Someone said the price will be cheap. That mean under 40 000$ LOL. Because it will be in the same category as the Hasselblad's. And the only thing I was asking for was a 16mpx full frame.

Though let see what will happening the 22th October