Ok, 10 days, so I know that there's not reason to be worried. Thank Luis 

Hi Ellerslie,

Sometimes images have been approved in 4 or 5 days, but other they take more than 2 weeks   I only have been able to have 235 files accepted there, in a period of 6 month while in Canstockphoto I have 1622 files  

 
Ah, ok, the most important thing is know what happen. So now I know that I can upload and sit quite  
thanks for telling me your experience, it's very helpful  

Nah!  no more!  I have had it with this Automated reviewing business!  Im leaving this site. Their reviewing program or software, is a total joke, rejecting images which have sold thousands of times at other sites.

Again it cant separate a toned image from WB but judge it as poor-lighting, etc, etc, etc. I can not for the life of me, understand why they dont treat reviewing as a human process.

Isnt worth it any longer.

Quote from: lagereek on July 04, 2011, 23:46

Nah!  no more!  I have had it with this Automated reviewing business!  Im leaving this site. Their reviewing program or software, is a total joke, rejecting images which have sold thousands of times at other sites.

Again it cant separate a toned image from WB but judge it as poor-lighting, etc, etc, etc. I can not for the life of me, understand why they dont treat reviewing as a human process.

Isnt worth it any longer.

Each of us probably have different experiences with each agency. I never got the impression that the 123rf's system was automated. I think it's just a case of some agencies preferring certain styles of images and certain subjects than others. I've always had a great AR on 123rf and it has become a good earner for me. Other agencies don't like my style or maybe my subjects and consequently I don't get much online with them.

Well you have to excuse me! but if its done as a human process, then I run for my life.

Look! Alex normally answers here, telling us to give the file-numbers, etc, and he will take care of it, which he does and sure enough the images are ofcourse passed. Just that its time consuming and its a hassle and further more,  it shouldnt be like that.

Reviewers or programs, etc, shouldnt make errors of judgements, all the time just for Alex to then come and sort it out.

Hi All,

Let me be very clear - We don't employ automated scripts to review your images. Else we'll NEVER have a queue. Each image batch is reviewed at random and assigned to different reviewers with different experience levels.

It's often difficult to judge which sells and which doesn't, however, we do apply some rules of thumb. I believe you'll agree with me, the process is an ever evolving one. We need to change and update ourselves constantly to ensure that we stay relevant.

I believe many of you have found that 123RF has never had a "closed door" policy with regards to appeals. And when you do appeal, we will take note of the trends etc. and we make it a part of our review process.  We need to refine and retune our review process all the time.

I for one, will certainly won't go around making up rules like whenever <whoever> sends in submissions, just accept them all without question. That, in my books smells of favoritism and very open to abuse.

If you have read our "Hear It" section at all, the number one advice that most photographers give is: Don't take rejections personally and perhaps we should all be more objective when it comes to rejections.

Thank you very much. I hope to receive your appeal soon.

Alex.

Thanks for answering!

Then just for the record, whoever is reviewing, at least in my case, he/she, is discarding images that have been accepted by all the leading sites, including Getty, etc, and downloaded thousands of times.
I find that very strange indeed,  given the fact I dont get many rejects, anywhere.

best.

It is a tough call, but it's interesting to see how different sites view content. 123rf has accepted most of my images - some property release rejections for things taken from public places, some "minimal commercial value " rejections that are IMO off the mark. As an example, a series of a teen's messy room (which is not "pretty", but that's the point) has one image that outsells the others (what was true at iStock has turned out the same at SS and DT). Guess which one 123rf rejected as having no commercial value? Shutterstock has done similar things.

I'm struggling to get everything uploaded, so I'm generally letting things go. I do think having some sort of appeals process (more formal that just resubmitting with a note to reviewer) is something all the sites should have. Limit the numbers so you don't get a flood of whining.

IS has always said that it's irrelevant to them that something sells elsewhere. Not sure why that is irrelevant as these sites aren't art galleries.

Shutterstock accepted one appeal (on the basis that it had sold  500 times at iStock so its commercial value couldn't be that limited) but the others I tried (with a note; I wasn't trying to sneak anything past them) they just rejected again. I think the frustration comes from the fact that you know it's not possible for the sites to be certain that they're making the right call. Obviously we hope they get it right more than wrong...

...You make more sense than most of the microstock sites put together. Ok that may not be so difficult. ...

This may be a text book definition of damning with faint praise

A little off topic, but can anyone tell me if it's possible to determine what specific photos have sold? (without going through them one at a time).  I recently joined 123 and have had 4 sales in July, but the sales history page only lists totals and not the actual images that have sold.  I'm guessing there's a link somewhere that I'm just not seeing?

Thanking in advance...

 

The UI for contributors is pretty awful - most of the stuff is there, but finding it isn't easy. See this page for the image downloads you've had.

There may be another way to get to it, but the only way I know is this: Scroll to the bottom of the page and under the heading "For Photographers" click on the Sell Images link, you'll get a bunch of links to contributor functions. Click on Download to get to that page. It'd be better if it were sorted in reverse chronological order - most recent first - but you can pick a specific day from the drop down lists if you want.

Or go to "For Photographers" click on "More" and a whole new world of options opens up to you. You can "Fave" images to get higher ranking from them and yes, you can see each sale by month, specific date, with thumb, type of sale and income earned under "Download". 123RF UI is (in my opinion) pretty awesome, just have to learn what the options mean and I for one think they are quite logically arranged (after you clicked on "more" or "sell images").
Jsnover, do agree that more info on home page like income and/or number of sales will help. Bit of a round about to see if new sales was made and total value.

Thanks jsnover and CD123 for that info. Much appreciated!

Is there a problem with the servers?  I have been trying to attach model releases to my images all day and can't get the pages to load, or they load partially, or I get an error message. 

Things were fine around 10am here (1pm your time) for my batch of 100.