Hello
Is it worth uploading vectors to 123RF ?
Or this is just a waste of time ?

Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... 

🤣🤣🤣 Yes I need one

Can I ask you what is you top marketplaces where you sell vectors ? instead adobe and SS

Quote from: DiscreetDuck on February 17, 2022, 09:02

Hello. Sure it's not. But you have to upload before 2007 or 2008.
I sell wayback machines if you want... 

Great, that comment! 

And, yes, it's true. 123rf doesn't belong to the agencies where vectors bring in the big money.

what is you best agencies to sell vectors, instead adobe and SS ?

Hello
Is it worth uploading vectors to 123RF ?
Or this is just a waste of time ?

I have 5500 vectors on 123RF.
I make 5-10 USD per month. I still upload there, because it's really easy, considering my workflow.
So, you decide. If you have thousands of vectors on 12-15 small agencies and you get 10 USD per month from each of them, then you can make 150+ USD per month, or 1800 USD per year. That is a nice addition to "big agencies money" - SS, AS, iS, P5...  But, of course, uploading to 20 agencies takes a lot of time.
If you automate and/or optimize your workflow... maybe...

This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images.

Taking months to accept images is hardly what I would call "professional" or an "acceptable" review time.   
How many or often you submit images shouldn't play a role.



 I created an account with them about a year ago, submitted some images, half a year later they were still not reviewed, so I  deleted the site from my bookmarks and wrote that chapter off. That's anything but professional and not an agency I want to work with.

Quote from: Souf10 on February 17, 2022, 08:00

Hello
Is it worth uploading vectors to 123RF ?
Or this is just a waste of time ?

I have 5500 vectors on 123RF.
I make 5-10 USD per month. I still upload there, because it's really easy, considering my workflow.
So, you decide. If you have thousands of vectors on 12-15 small agencies and you get 10 USD per month from each of them, then you can make 150+ USD per month, or 1800 USD per year. That is a nice addition to "big agencies money" - SS, AS, iS, P5...  But, of course, uploading to 20 agencies takes a lot of time.
If you automate and/or optimize your workflow... maybe...

I agree with you 👍

Quote from: smcbuki on February 17, 2022, 10:59

This is not my experience with 123RF. They are very professional. They review times are more than acceptable (sometimes quicker than SS). Their support is great.
It can take months to accept images only if you don't submit often or if you submit just few images.

Taking months to accept images is hardly what I would call "professional" or an "acceptable" review time.   
How many or often you submit images shouldn't play a role.



 I created an account with them about a year ago, submitted some images, half a year later they were still not reviewed, so I  deleted the site from my bookmarks and wrote that chapter off. That's anything but professional and not an agency I want to work with.

You should have contacted their support. They would push your pending images.
How many images you submit at a time definitely plays a role, almost everywhere. The larger your batch, the sooner your images get accepted.

Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.

But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.

And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.

So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.

I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly than mine.
As for reviewing speed, I've read somewhere on this forum about prioritizing batches, but I can't find that thread now. I don't remember the agency in question.
BTW I have 5 files pending on 123RF for quite some time. I have submitted hundreds of vectors and batches always go through, but those singles get stuck for weeks.
Sometimes, while I'm still submitting, they accept a few dozens from that batch. Hence - prioritizing large batches.
In a way it makes sense. Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.
If you submit one image every day, in one month you will have 30 submissions, one file per submission. Reviewers just won't bother to accept 30 micro tasks over one task with a large batch. When you contact support, they check your submissions and mark them as urgent. Maybe they pay more money (cents) for urgent reviews, or maybe they create one bigger batch from your separate submissions, and then reviewers check your files.
Anyways, this is way too much writing on this subject.

Quote from: smcbuki on February 17, 2022, 11:25

You should have contacted their support. They would push your pending images.
How many images you submit at a time definitely plays a role, almost everywhere. The larger your batch, the sooner your images get accepted.

If I have to contact support to have my images reviewed, that's another thing that is far from professional. They should know that they should review images contributor contribut. Obviously we don't upload content there just for fun. I will not run after them or any agency and beg them to review my images.
If 123RF and their system works for you, that's great for you. An agency that takes months to review content and where I have to contact them and tell them to do their job is not working for me.

And no, with no other agency the amount of photos I submit plays any role in how fast the images get reviewed.

Just came back to say your portfolio is adorable.

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 12:14

Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.

But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.

And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.

So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.

I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly.

 Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.

No, most of my vectors are extremely simple.

The thesis that the review is paid by quantity of accepted images is interesting. I don't know if this is true, but it is at least conceivable.

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 16:10

Quote from: smcbuki on February 17, 2022, 12:49

Quote from: Wilm on February 17, 2022, 12:14

Hmmm, I only have a small portfolio there - as with all other agencies. Less than 1500 files.

But that I sometimes have to wait over 4 months until the images go through the review, there is only at 123rf. And this only happens there when I write to the contributor support. With all other agencies, the review process is just as fast as it is with all contributors, even if I upload very rarely and very little.

And - without wanting to seem arrogant - my income with 123rf, although it is much less than before, is still several times higher than $10 a month.

So I can't understand this policy of 123rf. Mass alone cannot be the criterion for the speed of the review.

I guess you vectors are more complex or more stock-friendly.

 Reviewers pick larger batches from the queue, because they want to make more money, if they are paid by number of reviewed images.

No, most of my vectors are extremely simple.

The thesis that the review is paid by quantity of accepted images is interesting. I don't know if this is true, but it is at least conceivable.

Wilm ,but somehow this theory makes sense.
I assume that the reviewers work from home. Then it makes sense from the point of view of the agencies not to pay a fixed salary, but per review as an incentive.
Of course, I don't know if larger batches will bring more money per time.

If so, then the agency should consider whether what it is doing is right.

But it would fit into the general credo of the agencies. Quantity is more important than quality. Only: if everyone does it this way, the small agencies lose, because no agency can keep up with shutterstock - purely in terms of quantity. Perhaps marketing should then think about a new, more sensible orientation.

I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)

Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.

Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy.  I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.

I hope that was helpful.
Cheers

I'm an illustrator and I contribute predominantly vectors.
I have ~1500 vectors in all agencies listed below. I make $25-50 every month in 123RF; it used to be $50-100 three years back, but after the "restructure" it dropped.
It is also fair to say that due to other activities I haven't uploaded for about a year and a half, so I can't say what the numbers could be if I was consistent. I've started again this year, so I'll be able to be more accurate if you ask me in 2023.
For 2021 here are the agencies I contributed in order of income:
1. SS
2. AS (looks like it will soon become #1)
3. iS
4. VectorStock
5. 123RF
6. DP
7. Alami (!)
8. Canstock
9. ENVATO (Graphic River)
10. DT, Big, Pond5 (I check them out every Christmas for a small end-of-the-year bonus)

Special mention needs to be made for ENVATO's Graphic River. They can be a major stream of income if you're good on what you are doing, BUT...
Uploading the same set-up as the rest of the agencies won't cut it. It has different philosophy and different audience, and it needs a more labor-intensive approach in preparing and presenting your artwork. You have to give this special attention if you don't want to have 2/3 of your submission rejected as well as to have some success over there.

Recently I started uploading my portfolio in Vecteesy.  I'm still in the process and I don't have any sales yet, but - It has more traffic than VectorStock and this is something that makes me optimistic for future gains.

I hope that was helpful.
Cheers

Thank you !